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About The Podcast<\/h2>

The Aluminum Lining<\/a>,\u00a0<\/strong><\/em>a podcast hosted by Allyson Auster, takes you on a journey of self-discovery that winds its way through topics such as vulnerability, authenticity, and just being human. In this episode you will find a moving conversation related to the topic of miscarriage and early loss.<\/p>

Description of Episode<\/h2>

So many women suffer after a miscarriage or early loss and feel isolated and alone. My guest, Abigail Glass, MFT, has personal and professional experience with this important topic. She created a program called Move Through Miscarriage to support and guide anyone experiencing this (even family members). We truly hope that many will find this conversation helpful during such a difficult time<\/a>.\u00a0<\/p>

Episode Transcription<\/h2>

Allyson:\u200bGood\u00a0evening\u00a0and\u00a0welcome\u00a0back\u00a0to\u00a0The\u00a0AluminumLining\u00a0Podcast.\u00a0I\u00a0hope\u00a0the\u00a0past\u00a0couple weeks have treated you well.\u00a0And\u00a0I’m\u00a0wondering\u00a0if\u00a0mercury\u00a0is still in retro grade because the\u00a0past\u00a0couple\u00a0weeks have\u00a0brought\u00a0several\u00a0bumps\u00a0and\u00a0I’ve\u00a0needed to remind myself to just ride the wave. And I’m hearing the\u00a0same\u00a0for\u00a0so\u00a0many\u00a0other\u00a0people right now. So if you happen\u00a0to\u00a0be\u00a0in\u00a0the\u00a0same\u00a0boat,\u00a0let’s\u00a0continue to ride those waves and we shall have calm again, hopefully\u00a0soon.<\/p>

\u200bTonight\u00a0I\u00a0have\u00a0my\u00a0very\u00a0first\u00a0guest.\u00a0I\u00a0couldn’t\u00a0be\u00a0more\u00a0thrilled to have someone very important to me join us on this episode.\u00a0She\u00a0and\u00a0I\u00a0met\u00a019\u00a0years\u00a0ago as therapists working in community mental health. And tonight’s\u00a0topic\u00a0is\u00a0one\u00a0that\u00a0is\u00a0not\u00a0openly discussed enough in our society. We will be discussing miscarriage\u00a0and\u00a0early\u00a0loss.\u00a0My\u00a0special guest has had her own personal\u00a0experiences\u00a0with\u00a0miscarriage and early loss, and it became\u00a0a\u00a0large\u00a0part\u00a0of\u00a0her\u00a0private practice as a marriage and\u00a0family therapist over the past\u00a020\u00a0plus\u00a0years.\u00a0We\u00a0will\u00a0be\u00a0talking about a sensitive subject that may activate some strong emotions.\u00a0So\u00a0I\u00a0want\u00a0to\u00a0make\u00a0sure that\u00a0that\u00a0is\u00a0noted before\u00a0we\u00a0begin.\u00a0So\u00a0let\u00a0me\u00a0start\u00a0by\u00a0welcomingAbigail\u00a0Glass.\u00a0Hi,\u00a0Abigail.<\/p>

Abigail Glass:\u200bHi,\u00a0Allyson.\u00a0Thank\u00a0you\u00a0so much for having me here. I am\u00a0so\u00a0grateful\u00a0to\u00a0have\u00a0this\u00a0platform to share and discuss this\u00a0topic\u00a0because\u00a0it\u00a0becomes\u00a0so\u00a0difficult for women that are going through it to discuss as well\u00a0as\u00a0their\u00a0close\u00a0family\u00a0members and their community beyond their\u00a0family\u00a0at\u00a0home.<\/p>

Allyson:\u200bYeah.\u00a0I\u00a0completely\u00a0agree\u00a0with\u00a0you.\u00a0Tell\u00a0me\u00a0if\u00a0this\u00a0is right. I’ve read that one in four\u00a0pregnancies\u00a0become a\u00a0miscarriage\u00a0or\u00a0an\u00a0early\u00a0loss.<\/p>

Abigail Glass:\u200bThat’s\u00a0right.\u00a0That’s\u00a0right.<\/p>

Allyson:\u200bThat\u00a0really\u00a0makes\u00a0it\u00a0fairly\u00a0common,\u00a0yet\u00a0it’s\u00a0still\u00a0so so hard for people to talk about\u00a0and\u00a0leaves\u00a0women\u00a0togo\u00a0through\u00a0this\u00a0experience\u00a0alone\u00a0with no idea how to manage the grief\u00a0and\u00a0the\u00a0loss\u00a0associated\u00a0with\u00a0it.<\/p>

Abigail Glass:\u200bYeah.<\/p>

Allyson:\u200bYeah.\u00a0So\u00a0this\u00a0is\u00a0where you come in. Based on your personal\u00a0and\u00a0professional\u00a0experience, you have created a program\u00a0called\u00a0Move\u00a0Through\u00a0Miscarriage that is now accessible across the globe. The link will be\u00a0in\u00a0the\u00a0details\u00a0section\u00a0of\u00a0this episode. Can you share your story\u00a0that\u00a0led\u00a0you\u00a0to\u00a0create\u00a0this\u00a0program?<\/p>

Abigail Glass:\u200bYes,\u00a0definitely.\u00a0My\u00a0path to creating this program began\u00a0when\u00a0my\u00a0first\u00a0pregnancy\u00a0became my first miscarriage. I was\u00a0utterly\u00a0devastated\u00a0and\u00a0I\u00a0was\u00a0in need of support. And there were other people’s stories out there\u00a0that\u00a0were\u00a0medical\u00a0ideas.\u00a0There was a group at the hospital\u00a0that\u00a0took\u00a0weeks\u00a0and\u00a0weeks\u00a0to start after I’d had my first\u00a0loss and I didn’t know what to\u00a0do\u00a0with\u00a0myself.\u00a0Like\u00a0I\u00a0actually\u00a0didn’t\u00a0knowhow\u00a0to\u00a0handle\u00a0my\u00a0hurt every day when I woke up and\u00a0I\u00a0also\u00a0didn’t\u00a0feel\u00a0prepared or\u00a0know\u00a0what\u00a0to expect\u00a0because\u00a0mine\u00a0was\u00a0extraordinarily\u00a0physically painful. And I also had\u00a0to go through a DNC following my\u00a0first\u00a0one.\u00a0I\u00a0ended\u00a0up\u00a0going\u00a0through years of waiting and trying\u00a0and\u00a0hoping\u00a0to\u00a0build\u00a0myown\u00a0family.\u00a0And\u00a0at\u00a0some\u00a0point\u00a0I\u00a0had one doctor that knew I was a\u00a0therapist\u00a0and\u00a0he\u00a0said\u00a0to\u00a0me,\u00a0“Are you ready to see some of my clients?” He asked if I could\u00a0see\u00a0some\u00a0of\u00a0his\u00a0patients\u00a0going through this kind of a loss.\u00a0And\u00a0at\u00a0that\u00a0time\u00a0I\u00a0really\u00a0I\u00a0wasn’t ready and I needed to get\u00a0further down the path of my own\u00a0healing.<\/p>

Allyson:\u200bUnderstandable.<\/p>

Abigail Glass:\u200bRight,\u00a0right.\u00a0So\u00a0once\u00a0I got\u00a0to\u00a0that\u00a0point,\u00a0after growing\u00a0my\u00a0family\u00a0through\u00a0both\u00a0adoption and one extraordinarily challenging\u00a0pregnancy,\u00a0I\u00a0am\u00a0blessed with two children.<\/p>

Allyson:\u200b[inaudible 00:04:16].<\/p>

Abigail Glass:\u200bAnd\u00a0I\u00a0knew\u00a0then\u00a0that\u00a0I\u00a0needed this work to be my specialty.\u00a0So\u00a0for\u00a0years,\u00a0I\u00a0ran\u00a0day-long miscarriage and early loss process\u00a0retreats.\u00a0I’ve\u00a0been honored\u00a0to\u00a0sit\u00a0with\u00a0hundreds\u00a0of\u00a0women going through this kind of\u00a0a\u00a0loss.<\/p>

Allyson:\u200bWow.<\/p>

Abigail Glass:\u200bAnd\u00a0so\u00a0many\u00a0women\u00a0do\u00a0this alone, end up crying in their\u00a0bedrooms\u00a0alone\u00a0and\u00a0it\u00a0has\u00a0become my mission to reach as many of those women as possible that\u00a0I\u00a0can’t\u00a0actually\u00a0sit\u00a0with.\u00a0That’s how my program came to be.<\/p>

Allyson:\u200bWow.\u00a0That’s\u00a0amazing.\u00a0You’ve had quite a story and I\u00a0know\u00a0how\u00a0difficult\u00a0it\u00a0was\u00a0and\u00a0there’s just so much grief and loss\u00a0around\u00a0it.\u00a0I\u00a0can\u00a0imagine\u00a0that when someone’s going through\u00a0it,\u00a0it\u00a0feels\u00a0like\u00a0it’s\u00a0going to last forever and never come to an end. So how long does it\u00a0take\u00a0for\u00a0people\u00a0to\u00a0get\u00a0through the feelings of the grief and\u00a0loss\u00a0of\u00a0something\u00a0like\u00a0this?<\/p>

Abigail Glass:\u200bYeah.\u00a0This\u00a0is\u00a0a\u00a0question that’s asked in desperation usually\u00a0for\u00a0every\u00a0woman\u00a0going\u00a0through a miscarriage and also the family members of the women\u00a0going\u00a0through\u00a0miscarriage\u00a0because they want to know, “When is\u00a0this\u00a0going\u00a0to\u00a0be\u00a0over?When\u00a0is\u00a0my\u00a0heart\u00a0going\u00a0to\u00a0stop\u00a0hurting\u00a0so\u00a0much?And\u00a0when\u00a0am\u00a0I\u00a0going\u00a0to get through this pain?” The\u00a0answer\u00a0is\u00a0very\u00a0different\u00a0for\u00a0different people. And one of the\u00a0things\u00a0I\u00a0talked\u00a0about\u00a0is\u00a0that we\u00a0don’t\u00a0just get\u00a0over\u00a0it\u00a0and\u00a0we\u00a0don’t\u00a0let\u00a0it\u00a0go.\u00a0We\u00a0work\u00a0to process and\u00a0integrate\u00a0it.\u00a0And\u00a0all\u00a0of\u00a0these\u00a0things\u00a0happen\u00a0overtime\u00a0and\u00a0it\u00a0is\u00a0different\u00a0for\u00a0each person and the patterns of\u00a0grief\u00a0vary\u00a0and\u00a0they’re\u00a0non-linear.<\/p>

Allyson:\u200bWhich\u00a0makes\u00a0sense\u00a0with\u00a0any\u00a0kind\u00a0of\u00a0grief\u00a0that\u00a0people go through.<\/p>

Abigail Glass:\u200bThat’s\u00a0right.<\/p>

Allyson:\u200bBut\u00a0now\u00a0it’s\u00a0individual.<\/p>

Abigail Glass:\u200bYeah.\u00a0Going\u00a0back\u00a0to\u00a0it, some\u00a0family\u00a0members, they\u00a0want\u00a0to\u00a0know\u00a0when\u00a0is\u00a0their\u00a0person\u00a0going to get through it or get\u00a0over\u00a0it\u00a0because\u00a0it’s\u00a0so\u00a0difficult to tolerate the pain in your partner or your daughter or your\u00a0friend\u00a0or\u00a0your\u00a0sister.\u00a0And so\u00a0on\u00a0both\u00a0sides, people\u00a0want\u00a0to\u00a0know\u00a0when\u00a0is\u00a0this\u00a0going\u00a0to\u00a0end?<\/p>

Allyson:\u200bI\u00a0love\u00a0that\u00a0you\u00a0brought that up because people probably\u00a0think,\u00a0oh,\u00a0it’s\u00a0just\u00a0their partner\u00a0that’s impacted,\u00a0but\u00a0it’s\u00a0not\u00a0just\u00a0the\u00a0immediate\u00a0family that’s impacted here.<\/p>

Abigail Glass:\u200bThat’s\u00a0right.\u00a0That’s\u00a0right. It’s all of those in your\u00a0circle,\u00a0around\u00a0you,\u00a0in\u00a0your\u00a0community, into your coworkers. So\u00a0many\u00a0women\u00a0are\u00a0going\u00a0through this and\u00a0going\u00a0back\u00a0to\u00a0work\u00a0and there’s that navigating how to\u00a0interact\u00a0with\u00a0the\u00a0community.<\/p>

Allyson:\u200bRight.<\/p>

Abigail Glass:\u200bSo\u00a0for\u00a0women\u00a0that\u00a0are\u00a0going through it, some feel that\u00a0they\u00a0have\u00a0to\u00a0get\u00a0over\u00a0it\u00a0in\u00a0some way in order to move forward.\u00a0And\u00a0one\u00a0of\u00a0the\u00a0things\u00a0that\u00a0I also talk about my program is that\u00a0I\u00a0think\u00a0you\u00a0can do\u00a0more\u00a0than\u00a0one\u00a0thing\u00a0at\u00a0one\u00a0time\u00a0emotionally. You don’t need the pressure\u00a0of\u00a0being\u00a0finished\u00a0with\u00a0your grief and loss in order to also be thinking about what you\u00a0might\u00a0do\u00a0next\u00a0or\u00a0what\u00a0your\u00a0next steps are. Both of those things\u00a0can\u00a0be\u00a0going\u00a0on\u00a0and\u00a0both\u00a0of them deserve time to heal and attention.\u00a0And\u00a0it’s\u00a0also important\u00a0to\u00a0do\u00a0it\u00a0in\u00a0your\u00a0own\u00a0timing. It’s very individual. There‘s\u00a0not\u00a0a\u00a0correct\u00a0answer\u00a0to\u00a0how long it\u00a0takes,\u00a0but\u00a0I\u00a0will\u00a0say, and\u00a0I\u00a0have\u00a0seen\u00a0over\u00a0and\u00a0over\u00a0that\u00a0you\u00a0can\u00a0heal,\u00a0process\u00a0the grief,\u00a0and\u00a0women\u00a0are able\u00a0to\u00a0find\u00a0hope\u00a0so\u00a0that\u00a0it’s\u00a0not\u00a0all\u00a0that you feel all of the time.<\/p>

Allyson:\u200bOh,\u00a0I\u00a0like\u00a0how\u00a0you\u00a0said that, because I can imagine\u00a0that\u00a0knowing\u00a0there\u00a0will\u00a0be\u00a0a\u00a0time when it won’t feel as overwhelming\u00a0can\u00a0be\u00a0quite\u00a0relieving.<\/p>

Abigail Glass:\u200bYes.\u00a0Yes.\u00a0Because\u00a0when\u00a0you’re in it, it can just feel\u00a0like\u00a0it’s,\u00a0like\u00a0you\u00a0said,\u00a0like it’s going to last forever, but\u00a0at\u00a0that\u00a0intensity.\u00a0And\u00a0so\u00a0that intensity doesn’t last forever\u00a0either.<\/p>

Allyson:\u200bYeah.\u00a0That’s\u00a0good\u00a0that\u00a0there’s\u00a0that\u00a0hope\u00a0there.<\/p>

\u200bSpeaking\u00a0of\u00a0family\u00a0members\u00a0and\u00a0people\u00a0in\u00a0their\u00a0lives,\u00a0what\u00a0isa\u00a0way\u00a0for\u00a0family\u00a0members\u00a0to\u00a0support\u00a0someone?What\u00a0can\u00a0you\u00a0say\u00a0to\u00a0help?<\/p>

Abigail Glass:\u200bThank\u00a0you.\u00a0It’s\u00a0a\u00a0really good question. Our culture just\u00a0doesn’t\u00a0deal\u00a0with\u00a0grief\u00a0very well in general. And when it\u00a0comes\u00a0to\u00a0a\u00a0miscarriage\u00a0or\u00a0early loss, often it’s so massive,\u00a0but it’s unseen by the people around\u00a0us.<\/p>

Allyson:\u200bOh,\u00a0right?<\/p>

Abigail Glass:\u200bRight.\u00a0They\u00a0don’t\u00a0see\u00a0it. We feel it, we carry it, but\u00a0the\u00a0others\u00a0on\u00a0the\u00a0outside\u00a0don‘t. So it’s not tangible. And people\u00a0don’t\u00a0know\u00a0what\u00a0to\u00a0say\u00a0and they don’t know what to do.\u00a0And when us as women are slammed\u00a0into\u00a0this\u00a0depth\u00a0of\u00a0grief\u00a0or\u00a0we’re going through this kind of\u00a0loss,\u00a0we\u00a0don’t\u00a0quite\u00a0realize what we\u00a0need\u00a0and\u00a0we\u00a0don’t\u00a0know how\u00a0to\u00a0ask\u00a0of\u00a0our partners\u00a0and\u00a0our\u00a0family\u00a0members.\u00a0And\u00a0they\u00a0end up in a position where they‘re\u00a0trying\u00a0to\u00a0guess\u00a0what\u00a0todo.<\/p>

Allyson:\u200bYeah.\u00a0That’s\u00a0a\u00a0good\u00a0point\u00a0too,\u00a0because\u00a0I\u00a0can\u00a0see\u00a0how that would happen and then let alone yourself. Like so many\u00a0times\u00a0we\u00a0don’t\u00a0even\u00a0know\u00a0what\u00a0we\u00a0need.So\u00a0what\u00a0can\u00a0the\u00a0family members\u00a0do?\u00a0What\u00a0can\u00a0they do\u00a0to\u00a0help?<\/p>

Abigail Glass:\u200bYes,\u00a0definitely\u00a0a\u00a0good\u00a0question. Family member scan continue\u00a0to\u00a0offer\u00a0their\u00a0support. They\u00a0can\u00a0literally say,\u00a0“I’m\u00a0here\u00a0for\u00a0you,”\u00a0repeatedly.\u00a0You\u00a0can’t say it enough times and they\u00a0can\u00a0refrain\u00a0from\u00a0trying\u00a0to fix or\u00a0make\u00a0the\u00a0pain\u00a0go\u00a0away.<\/p>

Allyson:\u200bOh,\u00a0that’s\u00a0a\u00a0big\u00a0one.<\/p>

Abigail Glass:\u200bIt’s\u00a0a\u00a0big\u00a0one\u00a0because\u00a0it’s hard for us. So we want to\u00a0do\u00a0something\u00a0to\u00a0help\u00a0when\u00a0somebody is hurting that much.<\/p>

Allyson:\u200bRight.<\/p>

Abigail Glass:\u200bIf\u00a0you’re\u00a0a\u00a0friend\u00a0or\u00a0family member, one of the things\u00a0that\u00a0is\u00a0so\u00a0supportive\u00a0is\u00a0to\u00a0make sure that you’re not taking\u00a0it\u00a0personally\u00a0if\u00a0someone\u00a0doesn’t respond to your offer. Offers of support and help and kindness,\u00a0they\u00a0mean\u00a0so\u00a0much\u00a0and\u00a0they’re felt and received even if the woman is unable to respond.\u00a0As\u00a0intimate\u00a0family\u00a0members,\u00a0what we can do is offer that we‘ll\u00a0just\u00a0remain\u00a0here\u00a0and\u00a0we\u00a0can ask if we’re really close, “Do\u00a0you\u00a0know\u00a0what\u00a0you\u00a0need?”We\u00a0can\u00a0literally\u00a0ask\u00a0those\u00a0questions, “Do you know what you need?\u00a0Is\u00a0there\u00a0anything\u00a0that\u00a0I\u00a0can\u00a0do?”<\/p>

Allyson:\u200bThat’s\u00a0really\u00a0good\u00a0because I know that… I kind of\u00a0already\u00a0said\u00a0this,\u00a0but\u00a0it’s\u00a0hard to know what we need in a moment.\u00a0And\u00a0I\u00a0just\u00a0love\u00a0how\u00a0you\u00a0gave that suggestion to have the family member ask them, which\u00a0would\u00a0then\u00a0open\u00a0that\u00a0door\u00a0up\u00a0to help her maybe even figure it\u00a0out.<\/p>

Abigail Glass:\u200bYes,\u00a0exactly.\u00a0And\u00a0I\u00a0have a lesson in my program to help\u00a0walk\u00a0women\u00a0through\u00a0discovering and figuring out what they need and then how to ask for it.<\/p>

Allyson:\u200bOh,\u00a0that’s\u00a0good.\u00a0I\u00a0can see how that would be really\u00a0helpful.<\/p>

Abigail Glass:\u200bAnd\u00a0just\u00a0adding\u00a0to\u00a0the\u00a0family and friends what they can\u00a0do,\u00a0sometimes\u00a0just\u00a0being\u00a0there and being present is actually\u00a0a\u00a0version\u00a0of\u00a0doing.\u00a0We\u00a0think of doing\u00a0in\u00a0a\u00a0particular\u00a0way,\u00a0but\u00a0being\u00a0physically\u00a0therewith\u00a0your\u00a0presence\u00a0is\u00a0actually\u00a0doing something. It’s often very challenging\u00a0for\u00a0partners\u00a0to\u00a0witness their loved one in such pain when they absolutely can’t fix\u00a0it\u00a0and\u00a0they’re\u00a0powerless.<\/p>

Allyson:\u200bYeah.\u00a0So\u00a0it’s\u00a0even\u00a0just, even if silence is uncomfortable\u00a0at\u00a0times,\u00a0sometimes\u00a0that‘s what’s needed. Is just sitting\u00a0there\u00a0quietly\u00a0next\u00a0to\u00a0the\u00a0person without words or being in the\u00a0same\u00a0space\u00a0with\u00a0them because\u00a0I\u00a0think\u00a0the\u00a0past\u00a0just\u00a0really\u00a0difficult.<\/p>

Abigail Glass:\u200bIt\u00a0is.\u00a0And\u00a0just\u00a0sitting there\u00a0and\u00a0holding\u00a0that space\u00a0that\u00a0way\u00a0is\u00a0actually\u00a0quite\u00a0powerful.<\/p>

\u200bThere\u00a0is\u00a0also\u00a0a\u00a0category\u00a0of\u00a0what\u00a0not\u00a0to\u00a0say.<\/p>

Allyson:\u200bOh,\u00a0that’s\u00a0good.<\/p>

Abigail Glass:\u200bSo\u00a0many\u00a0people\u00a0with\u00a0incredibly good intentions say things like…. And these are the\u00a0top ones that are really hard for\u00a0women\u00a0going\u00a0through\u00a0it\u00a0when they hear\u00a0it.\u00a0But\u00a0they\u00a0say\u00a0things like, “It was meant to be.”\u00a0Or,\u00a0“Oh,\u00a0it’s\u00a0okay,\u00a0you’ll\u00a0get\u00a0pregnant\u00a0again.”Or,\u00a0“It’s\u00a0better\u00a0this\u00a0way.”\u00a0Those\u00a0things\u00a0are kind of are flex for people,\u00a0but\u00a0they\u00a0end\u00a0up\u00a0very\u00a0hurtful.<\/p>

Allyson:\u200bYeah.\u00a0I\u00a0know\u00a0many\u00a0people can relate to that uncomfortable\u00a0feeling\u00a0of\u00a0wanting\u00a0to\u00a0say just the right thing, but like having some of those exact statements\u00a0come\u00a0out\u00a0of\u00a0their\u00a0mouth. I’m glad you brought up things\u00a0that\u00a0can\u00a0be\u00a0unintentionally hurtful so people can keep that\u00a0in\u00a0mind.<\/p>

Abigail Glass:\u200bYes.\u00a0And\u00a0everyone\u00a0is\u00a0really\u00a0trying\u00a0their\u00a0best\u00a0todo\u00a0something\u00a0helpful\u00a0and\u00a0to\u00a0be\u00a0there in the best way. And they don‘t know what to do. So that’s when\u00a0those\u00a0things\u00a0slip\u00a0out.<\/p>

Allyson:\u200bYeah,\u00a0that\u00a0makes\u00a0sense.\u00a0So\u00a0what\u00a0is\u00a0something\u00a0that\u00a0you would say with miscarriage and early loss that you see come\u00a0up\u00a0often?<\/p>

Abigail Glass:\u200bWhat\u00a0I\u00a0see\u00a0come\u00a0up\u00a0often is women that feel like they can\u00a0just\u00a0grit\u00a0their\u00a0teeth\u00a0and\u00a0make\u00a0it\u00a0through\u00a0it.And\u00a0really\u00a0what’s\u00a0needed\u00a0is\u00a0to\u00a0turn\u00a0towards it, of course, in their own\u00a0timing, but to turn towards it\u00a0and\u00a0process\u00a0it\u00a0so\u00a0that\u00a0it\u00a0doesn’t come up in a big way or an\u00a0indirect\u00a0way\u00a0later.<\/p>

Allyson:\u200bOh,\u00a0that’s\u00a0a\u00a0really\u00a0good\u00a0point.\u00a0Let’s\u00a0kind\u00a0of\u00a0jump\u00a0into the program now. What does\u00a0this\u00a0program\u00a0offer<\/p>

Abigail Glass:\u200bIt\u00a0offers\u00a0healing\u00a0and\u00a0a path\u00a0to\u00a0actually\u00a0move through\u00a0the\u00a0loss.<\/p>

Allyson:\u200bWow.<\/p>

Abigail Glass:\u200bWhen\u00a0I\u00a0went\u00a0through\u00a0my\u00a0miscarriages, I felt so isolated,\u00a0even\u00a0though\u00a0I\u00a0had\u00a0my\u00a0family around.\u00a0I would\u00a0have\u00a0done\u00a0anything to have somebody guide me\u00a0through\u00a0whether\u00a0it\u00a0was\u00a0exercises or rituals or how to have conversations,\u00a0some\u00a0ways\u00a0to\u00a0even think education\u00a0about\u00a0wrapping my\u00a0head\u00a0around\u00a0it\u00a0and\u00a0to help\u00a0me\u00a0move\u00a0through\u00a0it.\u00a0And\u00a0so\u00a0over time, that’s what I ended up\u00a0doing.\u00a0I\u00a0created\u00a0these\u00a0rituals and tools\u00a0and\u00a0I\u00a0used\u00a0my\u00a0skills as\u00a0a\u00a0therapist\u00a0to communicate\u00a0about\u00a0it.\u00a0And\u00a0that’s\u00a0how\u00a0I\u00a0healed. And my program is bringing all\u00a0of\u00a0those\u00a0things\u00a0together that\u00a0I\u00a0did,\u00a0that\u00a0I\u00a0would\u00a0have\u00a0loved to have been offered.<\/p>

Allyson:\u200bOh,\u00a0wow.<\/p>

Abigail Glass:\u200bThe\u00a0structure\u00a0of\u00a0it\u00a0is\u00a0that it is brief videos each day,\u00a0so\u00a0that\u00a0it’s\u00a0digestible.\u00a0And I kind of get to be there with\u00a0these\u00a0beautiful\u00a0women\u00a0for\u00a030 days\u00a0in\u00a0arrow.\u00a0And\u00a0of\u00a0course\u00a0that\u00a0can\u00a0be\u00a0stretched\u00a0out\u00a0foreach\u00a0person’s\u00a0individual\u00a0pace\u00a0because some of the exercises, someone\u00a0may\u00a0be\u00a0able\u00a0to\u00a0sit\u00a0down\u00a0and just do it in one sitting,\u00a0but\u00a0someone\u00a0else\u00a0may\u00a0need\u00a0to\u00a0do bits of it at a time and take it over some days. And that’s totally\u00a0fine.<\/p>

Allyson:\u200bThat\u00a0makes\u00a0sense.<\/p>

Abigail Glass:\u200bYeah.\u00a0And\u00a0there’s\u00a0a\u00a0private Facebook community. So there’s\u00a0this\u00a0safety\u00a0net\u00a0and\u00a0place for women\u00a0that\u00a0have\u00a0either\u00a0done the program or are doing the\u00a0program\u00a0for\u00a0them\u00a0to\u00a0share\u00a0these exercises and the work that they’re doing and support each other.\u00a0And\u00a0I’m\u00a0in\u00a0that\u00a0group\u00a0as\u00a0well.<\/p>

Allyson:\u200bI\u00a0love\u00a0that.\u00a0That’s\u00a0just\u00a0another\u00a0way\u00a0so\u00a0that\u00a0they\u00a0don’t have to feel alone.<\/p>

\u200bWell,\u00a0I\u00a0have\u00a0to\u00a0say,\u00a0I\u00a0mean,\u00a0the program sounds absolutely amazing.<\/p>

Abigail Glass:\u200bThank\u00a0you.<\/p>

Allyson:\u200bYou’re\u00a0welcome.\u00a0I\u00a0have been very lucky enough to have\u00a0seen\u00a0a\u00a0few\u00a0snippets\u00a0and\u00a0it\u00a0really is wonderful. I have to say\u00a0the\u00a0love\u00a0and\u00a0the\u00a0care\u00a0that\u00a0you have for women going through those, just really comes through\u00a0in\u00a0each\u00a0one\u00a0of\u00a0the\u00a0videos\u00a0I’ve\u00a0seen\u00a0so\u00a0far.And\u00a0it’s\u00a0so\u00a0apparent\u00a0that\u00a0with\u00a0your\u00a0guidance, any woman struggling with recent pain of miscarriage and early\u00a0loss,\u00a0or\u00a0even\u00a0those\u00a0who\u00a0are still struggling from years past,\u00a0I\u00a0could\u00a0see\u00a0will\u00a0also\u00a0benefit from this program. I’ve already shared it with so many people\u00a0and\u00a0can\u00a0you\u00a0share\u00a0with\u00a0us like\u00a0where\u00a0can people\u00a0find\u00a0this\u00a0program\u00a0that\u00a0you’ve\u00a0created?<\/p>

Abigail Glass:\u200bYes,\u00a0sure.\u00a0There’s\u00a0actually two ways. One of them is through\u00a0my\u00a0website,\u00a0which\u00a0is\u00a0Abigail\u00a0Glass,M-F-T,\u00a0as\u00a0in\u00a0marriage,\u00a0family,\u00a0therapist,abigailglassmft.com.\u00a0And\u00a0if\u00a0you’re\u00a0on a\u00a0computer, on\u00a0the\u00a0top\u00a0right,\u00a0there’s a button for the Move Through Miscarriage\u00a0program.\u00a0When\u00a0you’re\u00a0on\u00a0a\u00a0cellphone,\u00a0there’s\u00a0a\u00a0dropdown\u00a0menu\u00a0that\u00a0comes up.\u00a0And in\u00a0that,\u00a0there’s\u00a0also\u00a0a\u00a0link\u00a0to\u00a0the\u00a0program.\u00a0And\u00a0then the exact link directly to the page is in the comments below\u00a0this.<\/p>

Allyson:\u200bYeah,\u00a0I’ll\u00a0definitely\u00a0include\u00a0that.<\/p>

\u200bThank\u00a0you\u00a0for\u00a0being\u00a0here.\u00a0It’s been an absolute pleasure to\u00a0have\u00a0you\u00a0as\u00a0my\u00a0very\u00a0first\u00a0guest. Thank you again for being here\u00a0and\u00a0opening\u00a0a\u00a0door\u00a0for\u00a0so\u00a0many women in this world that feel\u00a0alone\u00a0and\u00a0isolated\u00a0and\u00a0really, they don’t know where to turn.<\/p>

Abigail Glass:\u200bThank\u00a0you\u00a0so\u00a0much\u00a0for\u00a0having me, for making this information\u00a0available\u00a0to\u00a0people.\u00a0And may it help many, many women.<\/p>

Allyson:\u200bI\u00a0hope\u00a0so\u00a0too.\u00a0That’s\u00a0it\u00a0for\u00a0us.\u00a0Feel\u00a0free\u00a0to\u00a0reach out on my social media pages, Facebook and Instagram, with any\u00a0thoughts\u00a0or\u00a0questions.\u00a0And\u00a0I‘m looking forward to continuing\u00a0my\u00a0podcast\u00a0journey\u00a0with\u00a0youall.\u00a0Thank\u00a0you\u00a0again,\u00a0Abigail.<\/p>

Abigail Glass:\u200bThank\u00a0you.<\/p>

Allyson:\u200bTake\u00a0care\u00a0and\u00a0be\u00a0gentle and kind to yourself and to others.\u00a0Goodnight,\u00a0everybody.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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